This is a co-hosted podcast with my friend Zack Mcinnis. His podcast, Remembering to Forget Something About Nothing is available on Soundcloud. His uncle Chris has had numerous back surgeries and lives in constant chronic pain, something I've fought for the last two years myself. My spondylolisthesis stage 2 has left me unable to walk around without pain; a few years ago I was an elite athlete rock climber and martial artist. The transition has been difficult for me and we discuss the realities, challenges, and coping strategies for chronic pain. If you're going through anything yourself either physically or mentally; it's worth your time.